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UNITED STATES
SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Washington, D.C. 20549
FORM 8-K
CURRENT REPORT
Pursuant to Section 13 or 15(d) of the Securities and Exchange Act of 1934
Date of Report (Date of earliest event reported): October 28, 2010
CBIZ, INC.
(Exact name of registrant as specified in its charter)
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Delaware
(State or other jurisdiction
of incorporation)
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1-32961
(Commission
File Number)
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22-2769024
(IRS Employer
Identification No.) |
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6050 Oak Tree Boulevard, South, Suite 500
Cleveland, Ohio
(Address of principal executive offices)
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44131
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216-447-9000
(Registrants telephone number, including area code)
Check the appropriate box below if the Form 8-K filing is intended to simultaneously satisfy the
filing obligation of the registrant under any of the following provisions:
o Written communications pursuant to Rule 425 under the Securities Act (17 CFR 230.425)
o Soliciting material pursuant to Rule 14a-12 under the Exchange Act (17 CFR 240.14a-12)
o Pre-commencement communications pursuant to Rule 14d-2(b) under the Exchange Act (17 CFR
240.14d-2(b))
o Pre-commencement communications pursuant to Rule 13e-4(c) under the Exchange Act (17 CFR
240.13e-4(c))
Item 2.02 Results of Operations and Financial Condition.
On October 28, 2010, CBIZ, Inc. (the Company) issued a press release announcing its financial
results for the three and nine month periods ended September 30, 2010. A copy of the press release
is furnished herewith as Exhibit 99.1. A transcript of CBIZs earnings conference call held on
October 28, 2010 is furnished herewith as Exhibit 99.2. The exhibits contain, and may implicate,
forward-looking statements regarding the Company and include cautionary statements identifying
important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated.
Item 9.01 Financial Statements and Exhibits.
(d) Exhibits.
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99.1
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Press Release of CBIZ, Inc. dated October 28, 2010, announcing its financial
results for the three and nine month periods ended September 30, 2010. |
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99.2
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Transcript of earnings conference call held on October 28, 2010, discussing
CBIZs financial results for the three and nine month periods ended September 30, 2010. |
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SIGNATURES
Pursuant to the requirements of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, the registrant has duly caused
this report to be signed on its behalf by the undersigned hereunto duly authorized.
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November 3, 2010 |
CBIZ, INC.
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By: |
/s/ Ware H. Grove
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Name: |
Ware H. Grove |
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Title: |
Chief Financial Officer |
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EXHIBIT 99.1
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
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CONTACT:
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Ware Grove
Chief Financial Officer
- -or-
Lori Novickis
Director, Corporate Relations
CBIZ, Inc.
Cleveland, Ohio
(216) 447-9000 |
CBIZ REPORTS THIRD-QUARTER AND NINE-MONTH 2010 RESULTS
Diluted EPS from continuing operations is $0.09 for the quarter vs. $0.09 a year ago
Third-quarter results include $0.02 charge for early redemption of 3.125% Notes
Diluted EPS of $0.48 from continuing operations for the nine months vs. $0.50 in prior year
YTD results include charge of $0.04 for acquisition integration and early redemption of Notes
Cash EPS is $0.87 for the nine months vs. $0.84 for prior year
Cleveland, Ohio (October 28, 2010)CBIZ, Inc. (NYSE: CBZ) today announced results for the
third quarter and nine months ended September 30, 2010.
CBIZ reported revenue of $176.5 million for the third quarter ended September 30, 2010, compared
with the $175.8 million reported for the third quarter of 2009. Revenue from newly acquired
operations contributed $4.5 million to revenue in the third quarter compared with the same period a
year ago. Same-unit revenue declined by 2.2%, or $3.8 million for the third quarter 2010, compared
to the same period a year ago. CBIZ reported income from continuing operations for the quarter of
$5.3 million, or $0.09 per diluted share, compared with $5.4 million, or $0.09 per diluted share in
the third quarter of 2009.
During the third quarter, the Company announced the repurchase of approximately 7.7 million shares
from founder Michael G. DeGroote along with a three-year option to repurchase his remaining 7.7
million shares. The Company also closed a $130 million Senior Subordinated Convertible Notes
transaction during the third quarter and used a portion of the net proceeds to repurchase
approximately 4.6 million shares of its common stock at a cost of approximately $25.1 million. In
addition, $60.0 million of the proceeds were used for the early redemption of the Companys 3.125%
Convertible Notes. Results in the third quarter include a pre-tax charge of $2.0 million
(approximately $0.02 per diluted share) related to the early redemption of these Notes.
For the nine-month period ended September 30, 2010, CBIZ reported revenue of $567.6 million
compared with $577.4 million for the prior-year period. Same-unit revenue decreased by 4.4%, or
$25.5 million, for
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the first nine months of 2010 compared to the same period a year ago.
Acquisitions contributed $15.6 million to revenue for the first nine months of 2010. Net income
from continuing operations was $29.1 million, or $0.48 per diluted share, for the first nine months
of 2010, compared with $30.7 million, or $0.50 per diluted share, for the first nine months of
2009.
In addition to the $2.0 million third-quarter pre-tax charge related to the early redemption of
$60.0 million of the 3.125% Convertible Notes, results for the nine months also include a pre-tax
charge of approximately $1.4 million related to integration activities of Goldstein Lewin & Company
which was acquired in the first quarter 2010. The impact of these charges on diluted earnings per
share for the nine months was approximately $0.04 per share.
The outstanding balance of the Companys $275 million unsecured bank line of credit at September
30, 2010 was $119.0 million compared with a balance of $110.0 million at December 31, 2009. At
September 30, 2010, $40 million remains outstanding on the 3.125% Convertible Notes that are
callable in June of 2011, plus $130 million on the 4.875% Convertible Notes that were issued
September 27, 2010.
Cash earnings per share, a non-GAAP measure that includes major non-cash charges and credits to
income from continuing operations, was $0.24 per diluted share for the third quarter compared with
$0.21 per diluted share a year ago, and $0.87 per diluted share for the nine months ended September
30, 2010 compared with $0.84 per diluted share a year ago. A schedule which reconciles Cash EPS
with GAAP EPS is attached. Adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter ended September 30, 2010 was
$19.5 million, and for the nine months ended September 30, 2010 was $73.8 million.
Our Financial Services and Employee Services businesses have continued to perform well through the
third quarter this year. Our Medical Management Practices group continues to face revenue
challenges related to a decline in the volume of medical procedures, but cost management efforts
within this group have better aligned our cost structure to revenue expectations for the second
half of 2010, stated Steven L. Gerard, Chairman and CEO. The issuance of our Convertible Notes
eliminated next years refinancing risk and the related share repurchase transaction we completed
during the third quarter will be accretive to CBIZ shareholders in 2011. With one acquisition in
the third quarter, we have closed three transactions so far this year, and we continue to have an
active pipeline of potential acquisitions under review. For the full-year 2010, excluding the
acquisition integration and debt retirement charges, we continue to project earnings per share
within a close range of the $0.52 we reported for 2009, concluded Mr. Gerard.
CBIZ will host a conference call later this morning to discuss its results. The call will be
webcast in a listen-only mode over the Internet for the media and the public, and can be accessed
at www.cbiz.com. Investors and analysts can participate in the conference call by dialing
1-800-640-9765 several minutes before 11:00 a.m. (ET). If you are dialing from outside the United
States, dial 1-847-413-4837. A replay of the call will be available starting at 1:00 p.m. (ET)
October 28, through midnight (ET), October 31, 2010. The dial-in number for the replay is
1-877-213-9653. If you are listening from outside the United States, dial 1-630-652-3041. The
access code for the replay is 28207281. A replay of the webcast will also be available on the
Companys web site at www.cbiz.com.
CBIZ, Inc. provides professional business services that help clients better manage their finances
and employees. CBIZ provides its clients with financial services including accounting and tax,
internal audit, merger and acquisition advisory, and valuation services. Employee services include
group benefits,
property and casualty insurance, retirement planning services, payroll, HR consulting and wealth
management. CBIZ also provides outsourced technology staffing support services, healthcare
consulting
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and medical practice management. As one of the largest benefits specialists and one of
the largest accounting, valuation and medical practice management companies in the United States,
the Companys services are provided through more than 150 Company offices in 36 states.
Forward-looking statements in this release are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the
Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such forward-looking statements are subject to
certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those
projected. Such risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to, the Companys ability to
adequately manage its growth; the Companys dependence on the current trend of outsourcing business
services; the Companys dependence on the services of its CEO and other key employees; competitive
pricing pressures; general business and economic conditions; and changes in governmental regulation
and tax laws affecting its insurance business or its business services operations. A more detailed
description of such risks and uncertainties may be found in the Companys filings with the
Securities and Exchange Commission.
For further information regarding CBIZ, call our Investor Relations Office at (216) 447-9000 or visit our web site at www.cbiz.com.
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CBIZ, INC.
FINANCIAL HIGHLIGHTS (UNAUDITED)
THREE MONTHS ENDED SEPTEMBER 30, 2010 AND 2009
(In thousands, except percentages and per share data)
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THREE MONTHS ENDED |
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SEPTEMBER 30, |
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2010 |
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% |
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2009 (1) |
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Revenue |
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176,486 |
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100.0 |
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175,775 |
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100.0 |
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Operating expenses |
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158,156 |
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89.6 |
% |
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160,017 |
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91.0 |
% |
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Gross margin |
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18,330 |
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10.4 |
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15,758 |
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9.0 |
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Corporate general and administrative expenses (2) |
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6,907 |
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3.9 |
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8,491 |
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4.9 |
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Operating income |
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11,423 |
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6.5 |
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7,267 |
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4.1 |
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Other income (expense): |
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Interest expense |
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(3,735 |
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-2.1 |
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(3,181 |
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-1.8 |
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Gain on sale of operations, net |
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89 |
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910 |
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0.5 |
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Other income, net (3) (4) |
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1,015 |
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0.5 |
% |
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3,144 |
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1.8 |
% |
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Total other (expense) income, net |
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(2,631 |
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873 |
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Income from continuing operations before income tax expense |
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8,792 |
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8,140 |
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4.6 |
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Income tax expense |
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3,464 |
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2,749 |
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Income from continuing operations |
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5,328 |
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3.0 |
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5,391 |
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3.1 |
% |
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Loss from operations of discontinued businesses, net of tax |
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(533 |
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(315 |
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Gain on disposal of discontinued businesses, net of tax |
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37 |
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27 |
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Net income |
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$ |
4,832 |
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2.7 |
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$ |
5,103 |
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2.9 |
% |
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Diluted earnings (loss) per share: |
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Continuing operations |
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0.09 |
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$ |
0.09 |
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Discontinued operations |
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(0.01 |
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(0.01 |
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Net income |
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$ |
0.08 |
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$ |
0.08 |
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Diluted weighted average common shares outstanding |
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59,579 |
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61,712 |
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Other data from continuing operations: |
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Adjusted EBIT (5) |
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14,434 |
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$ |
10,411 |
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Adjusted EBITDA (5) |
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$ |
19,478 |
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$ |
15,473 |
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Certain amounts in the 2009 financial data have been reclassified to conform to the current year presentation. |
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Includes an expense of $329 and $360 for the three months ended September 30, 2010 and 2009, respectively, in compensation expense associated with net gains from the Companys
deferred compensation plan (see note 3). Excluding this item, corporate general and administrative expenses would be $6,578 and $8,131, or 3.7% and 4.6% of revenue, for the
three months ended September 30, 2010 and 2009, respectively. |
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Includes net gains of $2,411 and $2,890 for the three months ended September 30, 2010 and 2009, respectively, attributable to assets held in the Companys deferred compensation
plan. These net gains do not impact income from continuing operations before income tax expense as they are directly offset by compensation adjustments to the Plan
participants. Compensation is included in operating expenses and corporate general and administrative expenses. |
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For the three months ended September 30, 2010, amount includes a loss of $1,996 on the retirement of $60.0 million of the Companys senior subordinated convertible notes that
were issued in May 2006 and income of $728 related to decreases in the fair value of contingent considerations due related to CBIZs prior acquisitions. |
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Adjusted EBIT represents earnings from continuing operations before income taxes, interest expense, gain on sale of operations, net, and the loss on the redemption of CBIZs
convertible notes described in Note (4) above. Adjusted EBITDA represents Adjusted EBIT before depreciation and amortization expense of $5,044 and $5,062 for the three months
ended September 30, 2010 and 2009, respectively. The Company has included Adjusted EBIT and Adjusted EBITDA data because such data is commonly used as a performance measure by
analysts and investors and as a measure of the Companys ability to service debt. Adjusted EBIT and Adjusted EBITDA should not be regarded as an alternative or replacement to
any measurement of performance under generally accepted accounting principles. |
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CBIZ, INC.
FINANCIAL HIGHLIGHTS (UNAUDITED)
NINE MONTHS ENDED SEPTEMBER 30, 2010 AND 2009
(In thousands, except percentages and per share data)
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NINE MONTHS ENDED |
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SEPTEMBER 30, |
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2010 |
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% |
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2009 (1) |
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% |
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Revenue |
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$ |
567,561 |
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100.0 |
% |
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$ |
577,423 |
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100.0 |
% |
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Operating expenses |
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489,624 |
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86.3 |
% |
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499,432 |
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86.5 |
% |
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Gross margin |
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77,937 |
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13.7 |
% |
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77,991 |
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13.5 |
% |
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Corporate general and administrative expenses (2) |
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22,529 |
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4.0 |
% |
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23,874 |
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4.1 |
% |
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Operating income |
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55,408 |
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9.7 |
% |
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54,117 |
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9.4 |
% |
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Other income (expense): |
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Interest expense |
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(10,314 |
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-1.8 |
% |
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(10,206 |
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-1.8 |
% |
Gain on sale of operations, net |
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465 |
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0.1 |
% |
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1,004 |
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0.2 |
% |
Other income, net (3) (4) |
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1,141 |
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0.2 |
% |
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5,449 |
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0.9 |
% |
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Total other expense, net |
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(8,708 |
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-1.5 |
% |
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(3,753 |
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-0.7 |
% |
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Income from continuing operations before income tax expense |
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46,700 |
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8.2 |
% |
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50,364 |
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8.7 |
% |
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Income tax expense |
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17,594 |
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19,711 |
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Income from continuing operations |
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29,106 |
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5.1 |
% |
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30,653 |
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5.3 |
% |
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Loss from operations of discontinued businesses, net of tax |
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(1,873 |
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(751 |
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(Loss) gain on disposal of discontinued businesses, net of tax |
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(995 |
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178 |
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Net income |
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$ |
26,238 |
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4.6 |
% |
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$ |
30,080 |
|
|
|
5.2 |
% |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Diluted earnings (loss) per share: |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Continuing operations |
|
$ |
0.48 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
$ |
0.50 |
|
|
|
|
|
Discontinued operations |
|
|
(0.05 |
) |
|
|
|
|
|
|
(0.01 |
) |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Net income |
|
$ |
0.43 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
$ |
0.49 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Diluted weighted average common shares outstanding |
|
|
61,212 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
61,897 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Other data from continuing operations: |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Adjusted EBIT (5) |
|
$ |
58,545 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
$ |
59,566 |
|
|
|
|
|
Adjusted EBITDA (5) |
|
$ |
73,802 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
$ |
74,695 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
(1) |
|
Certain amounts in the 2009 financial data have been reclassified to conform to the current year presentation. |
|
(2) |
|
Includes an expense of $297 and $562 for the nine months ended September 30, 2010 and 2009, respectively, in
compensation expense associated with net gains from the Companys deferred compensation plan (see note 3).
Excluding this item, corporate general and administrative expenses would be $22,232 and $23,312, or 3.9% and
4.0% of revenue, for the nine months ended September 30, 2010 and 2009, respectively. |
|
(3) |
|
Includes net gains of $1,475 and $4,539 for the nine months ended September 30, 2010 and 2009, respectively,
attributable to assets held in the Companys deferred compensation plan. These net gains do not impact
income from continuing operations before income tax expense as they are directly offset by compensation
adjustments to the Plan participants. Compensation is included in operating expenses and corporate general
and administrative expenses. |
|
(4) |
|
For the nine months ended September 30, 2010, amount includes a loss of $1,996 on the retirement of $60.0
million of the Companys senior subordinated convertible notes that were issued in May 2006, and income of
$1,449 related to decreases in the fair value of contingent considerations due related to CBIZs prior
acquisitions. |
|
(5) |
|
Adjusted EBIT represents income from continuing operations before income taxes, interest expense, gain on
sale of operations, net, and the loss on redemption of CBIZs convertible notes as described in Note (4)
above. Adjusted EBITDA represents Adjusted EBIT before depreciation and amortization expense of $15,257 and
$15,129 for the nine months ended September 30, 2010 and 2009, respectively. The Company has included
Adjusted EBIT and Adjusted EBITDA data because such data is commonly used as a performance measure by
analysts and investors and as a measure of the Companys ability to service debt. Adjusted EBIT and Adjusted
EBITDA should not be regarded as an alternative or replacement to any measurement of performance under
generally accepted accounting principles. |
6050
Oak Tree Boulevard, South Suite 500 Cleveland, OH 44131 Phone (216) 447-9000 Fax (216) 447-9007
Page 5 of 7
CBIZ, INC.
FINANCIAL HIGHLIGHTS (UNAUDITED)
(In thousands, except per share data)
SELECT SEGMENT DATA
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
THREE MONTHS ENDED |
|
|
NINE MONTHS ENDED |
|
|
|
SEPTEMBER 30, |
|
|
SEPTEMBER 30, |
|
|
|
2010 |
|
|
2009 (1) |
|
|
2010 |
|
|
2009 (1) |
|
Revenue |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Financial Services |
|
$ |
89,612 |
|
|
$ |
86,854 |
|
|
$ |
303,179 |
|
|
$ |
305,685 |
|
Employee Services |
|
|
42,417 |
|
|
|
41,272 |
|
|
|
133,033 |
|
|
|
129,013 |
|
Medical Management Professionals |
|
|
37,423 |
|
|
|
40,701 |
|
|
|
110,759 |
|
|
|
122,402 |
|
National Practices |
|
|
7,034 |
|
|
|
6,948 |
|
|
|
20,590 |
|
|
|
20,323 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Total |
|
$ |
176,486 |
|
|
$ |
175,775 |
|
|
$ |
567,561 |
|
|
$ |
577,423 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Gross Margin |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Financial Services |
|
$ |
10,693 |
|
|
$ |
7,966 |
|
|
$ |
52,823 |
|
|
$ |
50,223 |
|
Employee Services |
|
|
6,512 |
|
|
|
6,317 |
|
|
|
23,329 |
|
|
|
21,511 |
|
Medical Management Professionals |
|
|
5,275 |
|
|
|
5,583 |
|
|
|
11,175 |
|
|
|
16,899 |
|
National Practices |
|
|
691 |
|
|
|
738 |
|
|
|
1,175 |
|
|
|
1,805 |
|
Operating expenses unallocated (2): |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Other |
|
|
(2,760 |
) |
|
|
(2,317 |
) |
|
|
(9,388 |
) |
|
|
(8,470 |
) |
Deferred compensation |
|
|
(2,081 |
) |
|
|
(2,529 |
) |
|
|
(1,177 |
) |
|
|
(3,977 |
) |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Total |
|
$ |
18,330 |
|
|
$ |
15,758 |
|
|
$ |
77,937 |
|
|
$ |
77,991 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
(1) |
|
Certain amounts in the 2009 financial data have been reclassified
to conform to the current year presentation. |
|
(2) |
|
Represents operating expenses not directly allocated to individual businesses, including stock based compensation,
consolidation and integration charges and certain advertising expenses. Unallocated operating expenses also include gains or
losses attributable to the assets held in the Companys deferred compensation plan. These gains or losses do not impact income from
continuing operations as they are directly offset by the same adjustment to other income, net in the consolidated statements of operations.
Gains recognized from adjustments to the fair value of the assets held in the deferred compensation plan are recorded as additional compensation
expense in operating expenses and as income in other income, net. |
CASH EARNINGS AND PER SHARE DATA
Reconciliation of Income from Continuing Operations to Cash Earnings from Continuing Operations (3)
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
THREE MONTHS ENDED SEPTEMBER 30, |
|
|
|
2010 |
|
|
Per Share |
|
|
2009 |
|
|
Per Share |
|
|
Income from Continuing Operations |
|
$ |
5,328 |
|
|
$ |
0.09 |
|
|
$ |
5,391 |
|
|
$ |
0.09 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Selected non-cash items: |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Depreciation and amortization |
|
|
5,044 |
|
|
|
0.08 |
|
|
|
5,062 |
|
|
|
0.08 |
|
Non-cash interest on convertible notes |
|
|
1,083 |
|
|
|
0.02 |
|
|
|
1,003 |
|
|
|
0.02 |
|
Stock based compensation |
|
|
1,373 |
|
|
|
0.03 |
|
|
|
1,285 |
|
|
|
0.02 |
|
Loss on retirement of convertible notes |
|
|
1,996 |
|
|
|
0.03 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Adjustment to contingent earnouts |
|
|
(728 |
) |
|
|
(0.01 |
) |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Non-cash items |
|
|
8,768 |
|
|
|
0.15 |
|
|
|
7,350 |
|
|
|
0.12 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Cash earnings Continuing Operations |
|
$ |
14,096 |
|
|
$ |
0.24 |
|
|
$ |
12,741 |
|
|
$ |
0.21 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
NINE MONTHS ENDED SEPTEMBER 30, |
|
|
|
2010 |
|
|
Per Share |
|
|
2009 |
|
|
Per Share |
|
Income from Continuing Operations |
|
$ |
29,106 |
|
|
$ |
0.48 |
|
|
$ |
30,653 |
|
|
$ |
0.50 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Selected non-cash items: |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Depreciation and amortization |
|
|
15,257 |
|
|
|
0.25 |
|
|
|
15,129 |
|
|
|
0.24 |
|
Non-cash interest on convertible notes |
|
|
3,181 |
|
|
|
0.05 |
|
|
|
2,946 |
|
|
|
0.05 |
|
Stock based compensation |
|
|
3,943 |
|
|
|
0.06 |
|
|
|
3,465 |
|
|
|
0.05 |
|
Loss on retirement of convertible notes |
|
|
1,996 |
|
|
|
0.03 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Adjustment to contingent earnouts |
|
|
(1,449 |
) |
|
|
(0.02 |
) |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Restructuring charge |
|
|
1,148 |
|
|
|
0.02 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Non-cash items |
|
|
24,076 |
|
|
|
0.39 |
|
|
|
21,540 |
|
|
|
0.34 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Cash earnings Continuing Operations |
|
$ |
53,182 |
|
|
$ |
0.87 |
|
|
$ |
52,193 |
|
|
$ |
0.84 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
(3) |
|
The Company believes cash earnings and cash earnings per diluted
share (non-GAAP measures) more clearly illustrate the impact of
certain non-cash charges and credits to income from continuing
operations and are a useful measure for the Company and its
analysts. Cash earnings is defined as income from continuing
operations excluding: depreciation and amortization, non-cash
interest expense, non-cash stock based compensation expense, the
loss of approximately $2.0 million as a result of the retirement
of $60.0 million par value of the senior subordinated convertible
notes issued in May 2006, adjustment to the fair value of
contingent considerations due related to prior acquisitions, and
the portion of the $1.4 million restructuring charge to be paid in
future periods related to the 2010 acquisition of Goldstein Lewin.
Cash earnings per diluted share is calculated by dividing cash
earnings by the number of weighted average diluted common shares
outstanding for the period indicated. Cash earnings and cash
earnings per diluted share should not be regarded as a replacement
or alternative of performance under generally accepted accounting
principles. |
6050
Oak Tree Boulevard, South Suite 500 Cleveland, OH 44131 Phone (216) 447-9000 Fax (216) 447-9007
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CBIZ, INC.
FINANCIAL HIGHLIGHTS (UNAUDITED)
(In thousands, except percentages and ratios)
SELECT BALANCE SHEET DATA AND RATIOS
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
SEPTEMBER 30, |
|
|
DECEMBER 31, |
|
|
|
2010 |
|
|
2009 (1) |
|
Cash and cash equivalents |
|
$ |
719 |
|
|
$ |
9,257 |
|
Restricted cash |
|
$ |
12,350 |
|
|
$ |
15,432 |
|
Accounts receivable, net |
|
$ |
155,781 |
|
|
$ |
128,766 |
|
Current assets before funds held for clients |
|
$ |
183,325 |
|
|
$ |
181,001 |
|
Funds held for clients current and non-current |
|
$ |
87,715 |
|
|
$ |
98,470 |
|
Goodwill and other intangible assets, net |
|
$ |
397,898 |
|
|
$ |
375,211 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Total assets |
|
$ |
732,672 |
|
|
$ |
713,097 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Notes payable current |
|
$ |
307 |
|
|
$ |
13,410 |
|
Convertible notes current |
|
$ |
38,811 |
|
|
$ |
|
|
Current liabilities before client fund obligations |
|
$ |
124,518 |
|
|
$ |
89,530 |
|
Client fund obligations |
|
$ |
90,822 |
|
|
$ |
101,279 |
|
Convertible notes non-current |
|
$ |
115,987 |
|
|
$ |
93,848 |
|
Bank debt |
|
$ |
119,000 |
|
|
$ |
110,000 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Total liabilities |
|
$ |
506,481 |
|
|
$ |
442,479 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Treasury stock |
|
$ |
(355,735 |
) |
|
$ |
(269,642 |
) |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Total stockholders equity |
|
$ |
226,191 |
|
|
$ |
270,618 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Debt to equity (2) |
|
|
121.0 |
% |
|
|
75.3 |
% |
Days sales outstanding (DSO) continuing operations (3) |
|
|
81 |
|
|
|
66 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Shares outstanding |
|
|
49,455 |
|
|
|
61,937 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Basic weighted average common shares outstanding |
|
|
60,680 |
|
|
|
61,200 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Diluted weighted average common shares outstanding |
|
|
61,212 |
|
|
|
61,859 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
(1) |
|
Certain amounts in the 2009 financial data have been reclassified to conform to the current year presentation. |
|
(2) |
|
Ratio is convertible notes and bank debt divided by total stockholders equity. |
|
(3) |
|
DSO is provided for continuing operations and represents accounts receivable (before the allowance for doubtful accounts) and
unbilled revenue (net of realization adjustments) at the end of the period, divided by trailing twelve month daily revenue. The
Company has included DSO data because such data is commonly used as a performance measure by analysts and investors and as a
measure of the Companys ability to collect on receivables in a timely manner. DSO should not be regarded as an alternative or
replacement to any measurement of performance under generally accepted accounting principles. DSO at September 30, 2009 was 73. |
6050
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exv99w2
EXHIBIT 99.2
CORPORATE PARTICIPANTS
Steven Gerard
CBIZ, Inc. Chairman & CEO
Ware Grove
CBIZ, Inc. CFO
Jerry Grisko
CBIZ, Inc. President & COO
CONFERENCE CALL PARTICIPANTS
Josh Vogel
Sidoti & Co. Analyst
Jim Macdonald
First Analysis Corp. Analyst
Robert Kirkpatrick
Cardinal Capital Partners Analyst
Ted Hillenmeyer
Northstar Partners Analyst
PRESENTATION
Welcome to the CBIZ third quarter 2010 results conference call. My name is Monica, and I will
be your operator for todays call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later,
we will conduct a question-and-answer session. Please note that this conference is being recorded.
I would now like to turn the call over to Steven Gerard. Mr. Gerard, you may begin.
Steven Gerard CBIZ, Inc. Chairman & CEO
Thank you, Monica, and good morning, everyone. And thank you for calling in to CBIZs third
quarter 2010 conference call.
Before I begin my comments, Id like to remind you of a few things. As with all of our conference
calls, this call is intended to answer the questions of our shareholders and analysts. If there are
media representatives on the call, youre welcome to listen in; however, I ask that if you have
questions you hold them until after the call, and well be happy to address them at that time.
This call is also being webcast and you can access the call over our website. You should have all
received a copy of the press release which we issued this morning. If you did not, you can access
that on our website or call our corporate office for a copy.
Finally, please remember that during the course of this call we may make forward-looking
statements. These statements represent managements intentions, hopes, beliefs, expectations, and
predictions of the future. Actual results can and sometimes do differ materially from those
projected in forward-looking statements. Additional information concerning the factors that would
cause actual results to differ materially from those in forward-looking statements is contained in
our SEC filings, Form 10-K and press releases.
Joining me this morning on the call is Jerry Grisko, our President and Chief Operating Officer, and
Ware Grove, our Chief Financial Officer.
Prior to the opening this morning, we were pleased to release our third quarter results. The third
quarter, which is typically a slow quarter for us, was a very strong quarter in 2010. With
relatively flat revenue, earnings per share from operations were $0.11 versus $0.09 after you
discount the $0.02 charge from the early retirement of debt. We saw strong operating
1
performance from our Financial Services and Employee Services group and good cost-control measures
implemented in our MMP group. The third quarter also saw a significant number of other activities,
including the placement of $130 million of convertible notes to eliminate any refinancing risk for
next year when our old notes retire. And in the third quarter, we resolved the possible overhang
issue which has been frequently mentioned to us, resulting from the shares owned by our founder
Mike DeGroote, with the purchase of half of his shares and an option for the balance. The
combination of the shares purchased from Mr. DeGroote and the shares purchased in connection with
the convert will be highly accretive to our shareholders next year.
At this point, Id like to turn it over to Ware to go over the details, and then Ill come back
with more comment on whats going on in the market.
Ware Grove CBIZ, Inc. CFO
Thank you, Steve, and good morning, everyone. We had a lot of significant events occur in the
third quarter, and I want to run through the highlights of these items with you.
Let me start by reminding everyone that 2009 results are restated for the impact of discontinued
operations that occurred in the fourth quarter of 2009. Now, beyond the refinancing and share
repurchase transactions that we announced in September, I believe it is most important to note the
continued good performance of both our Financial Services and Employee Services business groups. We
continue to operate in an uncertain economic environment, but as you look at our results, you will
see that thanks to the hard work of the many people within our business units located across the
United States, both of these groups have increased their pretax income contributions and have
improved their gross margins for the third quarter and for the nine months ended September 30,
2010.
Total revenue in the third quarter grew from $175.8 million a year ago to $176.5 million in the
third quarter this year. Same unit revenue for CBIZ in the third quarter declined by 2.2%, or by
$3.8 million, compared with a third quarter a year ago. The majority of this decline can be
attributed to the Medical Management Professionals group, where same unit revenue declined by 8.1%,
or by $3.3 million in the third quarter. Same unit revenue in our Financial Services group was
essentially flat or declined by 0.4%. And in our Employee Services group, same unit revenue, again,
was essentially flat or declined by 0.6% in the third quarter compared with a year ago.
For the nine months ended September 30, 2010, same unit revenue for CBIZ declined by 4.4% compared
with a year ago. Our MMP group declined by 9.5%, Financial Services declined by 4.2%, and Employee
Services declined by 1.1% compared with the nine months ended a year ago.
Our Medical Management Professionals group continues to be challenged by the decline in medical
procedures and the related shifts in modality that has resulted in a decline in their revenue and
pre-tax income contributions for the nine months. During our second quarter conference call, we
commented that a number of cost-control measures had been taken within this group, and we are now
seeing the results with improved margins in the third quarter. As a result of these cost management
measures taken earlier in the year, pretax contribution from this group through the second half of
2010 is expected to be very close to the level achieved in the second half of 2009, despite the
continuing pressures on revenue.
Sequentially, we are seeing improved trends in both Financial and Employee Services groups. The
environment is still uncertain, however, and in Financial Services, we continue to see client
demand that is relatively soft with the volume of hours charged to clients still down slightly more
than 7% for the nine months this year compared with last year. We are seeing improvements in our
net yield on client engagements that are related to engagement efficiencies. Compared with a year
ago, the headcount in this group is down about 5%, and we are continuing to carefully manage all
costs within this group. Also, within Employee Services, continued high unemployment rates impacts
our Group Health Benefits business, and when combined with plan design changes that mitigate cost
increases to employers, this business is not growing at rates we have historically seen. Pricing in
Property and Casualty lines of coverage continues to be very soft, and that also impacts our
ability to grow this business.
On a more positive note, we are seeing a nice recovery in revenue related to our retirement
advisory business, as revenue in this service is driven by the underlying value of the assets in
the plans that we advise on, and we are experiencing growth in our Payroll services, our HR
Outsourcing services and also in our Executive Recruiting business.
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Now, as I mentioned earlier, on September 15th, we announced the purchase of 7.7 million shares
from Westbury Limited, which is related to our founder, Michael G. DeGroote, along with a
three-year option to purchase the 7.7 million share balance of Westbury share holdings.
Then, on September 27th, we announced that we closed on the issuance of $130 million of 4.875%
convertible notes that are due in October 2015. These new notes effectively provide funding to
retire the existing 3.125% notes outstanding that are callable in June of 2011. Many of the new
note purchasers were current holders of our 3.125% notes, and concurrent with the issuance of the
new notes, we used $60 million of the proceeds to retire a portion of the 3.125% notes. We also
used $40 million of the proceeds to immediately pay down balances outstanding on our bank credit
facility, and we used $25 million of the proceeds to purchase 4.6 million shares concurrent with
the issuance of these notes. I want to emphasize that the new 4.875% notes have the same net share
settlement feature that you may be familiar with in connection with our 3.125% notes. This means
that the $130 million principal value of these notes will be repaid in cash. At our option, shares
may be issuable for the potential conversion gain that occurs when the CBIZ share price exceeds
$7.41 per share.
Now, to summarize, looking at our balance sheet at September 30, 2010, you will see $119 million
outstanding on our $275 million unsecured bank credit facility. You will see $38.8 million
outstanding remaining on our 3.125% notes that are callable in June of 2011. And you will also see
$116 million balance outstanding for the 4.875% notes that are due in 2015.
The 4.875% notes are recorded at a discount on our balance sheet, and there will be a non-cash
amortization back to the $130 million par value over the next five years. As a result, these notes
will be amortized with an effective interest rate of 7.5%, which includes the 4.875% cash interest
payment plus the non-cash amortization. This rate of 7.5% is lower than the 7.8% effective rate
that we currently use on the 3.125% notes which are now being refinanced.
The total debt reflected on the balance sheet at September 30 was about $274 million when you
combine these three instruments. Considering the $53 million used for the Westbury share purchase
and the related option and the $25.1 million used for the share repurchase in connection with the
new convertible notes, we used $78 million of capital for share purchases in these transactions.
Results for the third quarter include a charge of approximately $2 million included in other income
or loss, or approximately $0.02 per share, for the early redemption of the $60 million of the
3.125% notes related to the accounting for the non-cash interest amortization in connection with
these notes. The impact of this charge on our pretax income margin in the third quarter was 113
basis points. Our results for the nine months ended September 30 include the charge for the early
redemption of these notes and also include a charge of approximately $1.5 million recorded in
operating expenses for the integration costs associated with the acquisition of Goldstein Lewin, a
financial services firm located in Boca Rotan, Florida, that was acquired in January of 2010.
Together, the impact of these two items was approximately 62 basis points on reported pre-tax
margin, or approximately $0.04 earnings per share for the results recorded for the nine months
ended September 30, 2010.
Now, youll also see that we continue to manage our general administrative expenses very carefully,
and as a percent of revenue, we are continuing to leverage these expenses. Through the first half
of this year, we had commented that a higher level of legal expenses had caused a temporary
increase in these expensive, and in the third quarter we received a cash payment on one of the
favorable judgments we had previously mentioned, so this recovery is now reflected in the G&A
expenses recorded for the nine months ended September 30, 2010.
Cash flow continues to be strong for the first nine months of 2010. Operating cash flow has been
about $40 million for the first nine months of 2010. Excluding the impact of the non-cash
restructuring costs and excluding the impact of the non-cash debt discount amortization costs,
EBITDA for the first nine months has been about $75 million when you adjust for these items.
Capital spending was approximately $650,000 in the third quarter and has been approximately $2.1
million for the nine months ended September 30.
Cash earnings per share, which served to illustrate the impact of major non-cash items on earnings
was $0.24 per share for the third quarter, compared with $0.21 per share a year ago. And for the
nine months ended this year, cash earnings per share was $0.87 per share compared with $0.84 per
share for the nine months a year ago. The margin on cash earnings to revenue improved by 33 basis
points this year compared with last year for the nine months.
As a result of the share purchase activity, the diluted share count is expected to be about 58.4
million shares at year-end 2010. And it is expected to be approximately 50 million shares at
year-end 2011. The accretive impact to earnings per
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share in 2011 that is expected from the transactions I just described is expected to be
approximately $0.05 per share for the full year 2011.
We think the financing structure we now have in place not only has provided an accretive impact to
shareholders through the share purchases completed, but also provides us with the flexibility to
continue to address acquisition opportunities as they arise. We continue to review a pipeline of
potential acquisitions, and we continue to approach this with the same discipline that weve always
used over the past six years. Our first priority for the use of capital has always been focused on
making strategic acquisitions. Considering our option to purchase an additional 7.7 million shares
from Westbury Limited in the next three years, we intend to focus additional cash flow more toward
strategic acquisitions rather than making additional open market share repurchases.
Now, looking toward the balance of this year, we expect both Financial and Employee Services
business groups to continue to perform well as they have for the first nine months compared with
2009. With the cost management measures taken in the MMP group, while we expect continued softness
in revenue for this business through the fourth quarter, we expect that margins will continue to
improve, and pretax contribution will be relatively flat in the fourth quarter compared to fourth
quarter a year ago.
So excluding the impact of the non-cash charges related to restructuring and the early debt
retirement that were described earlier, for the full year 2010, we continue to expect to achieve
earnings per share within a close range of the $0.52 reported for 2009. We also continue to expect
that EBITDA, again excluding the two items I mentioned, will be within a very close range of the
$85 million that was recorded for 2009.
So with these comments, let me conclude, and Ill turn it back over to Steve.
Steven Gerard CBIZ, Inc. Chairman & CEO
Thank you, Ware.
Weve covered a lot of information in a relatively short period of time, so Id like to open it up
for questions. I want to reiterate that the acquisition pipeline remains very strong. Were
confident that we will complete the normal 3 to 6 transactions we do each year, and any of those
that might come obviously would come between now and year-end.
With respect to the transaction with the DeGroote interests, that was an issue which has been on
our radar for quite some time. An opportunity came up to resolve an issue that we knew we would
resolve some day, and I believe a very fair transaction has been entered into for both the company
and for the DeGroote interests. And I would remind our listeners that Mr. DeGroote today remains
the largest single shareholder with almost 15% of our shares.
With that, let me stop and take questions of our shareholders and analysts and then return at the
end.
Q & A
Thank you. Well now begin the question-and-answer session. (OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS.) Our first
question comes from Josh Vogel of Sidoti & Company. Please go ahead.
Josh Vogel Sidoti & Co. Analyst
Thank you. Good morning, Steve and Ware.
Steven Gerard CBIZ, Inc. Chairman & CEO
Hey Josh.
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Ware Grove CBIZ, Inc. CFO
Hey Josh.
Josh Vogel Sidoti & Co. Analyst
Just a couple questions here. I guess the first in Financial Services, I know that
historically, especially pre-recession, you see project-based work start to fill the channel late
in the year. That obviously wasnt around in late 08 and 09, but I was wondering if youre
starting to see project-based demand start to fill up today.
Steven Gerard CBIZ, Inc. Chairman & CEO
I think in the second quarter call, I commented that we were seeing glimmers of light on the
horizon, but it was too early to call victory. I dont think its dramatically changed from that.
Were seeing higher levels of interest, more RFPs, more activity in terms of preliminary stage, but
nothing that I could at this point say, Yes, weve returned to the good old days of stronger
project work in the third and fourth quarter.
Josh Vogel Sidoti & Co. Analyst
Okay. Now, also, Im not sure if youve seen it or not, but we are seeing some nice demand
pickup from staffing companies that place financial services professionals on a temp basis. Im
curious here are you possibly losing out on some opportunities, or are you seeing some of your
clients looking to go the way of the temp, or is this just different work that they do altogether?
Steven Gerard CBIZ, Inc. Chairman & CEO
Im not aware that were seeing any significant loss of business due to people being placed by
temp agencies. The temp agencies are a good barometer, I think, of what small business owners are
thinking about. Theyre not ready to hire, but they may be adding some more people on a temporary
basis. But those people are not typically people that would do the work we do anyway. When youre
talking about tax work and financial planning work and stuff, maybe temps do part of it, but they
typically look to their accountant for that. So I dont think at that point thats having a
negative impact on us in any way.
Josh Vogel Sidoti & Co. Analyst
Okay. Thats what I figured.
Now, in MMP I know you took some cost-cutting maneuvers. I was wondering if maybe you could explain
what maybe some expenses that you called out here. And also, margins were still a lot stronger
there than what I expected, and I was curious maybe some radiology work picked back up, or not.
I was just curious if you can give some thoughts there.
Steven Gerard CBIZ, Inc. Chairman & CEO
The primary problem in MMP has been the revenue decline, which has been driven by lower level
of procedures and then, within the procedures that were done, a much lower level of the high
modality, the high payment procedures. The reaction was an aggressive program to make sure we had
right-sized each of our units. We were off-shoring as much as we could where there was a pickup in
margin. Weve implemented new processing systems in certain locations, which should make us more
efficient.
So its really a combination of all of the actions. Because MMP has over 70 locations, some of
which are quite small, and some are large processing centers. The action plan in each one, by
definition, just has to be different. In addition, we have
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four different specialties, and while radiology has been the primary issue with respect to volume
and price, actually the number of procedures in emergency is actually up a little bit.
So its not something where I can just give you a one answer with one cost. I think the cost
cutting and the right sizing and all of the activities have contributed to a better performance or
the performance that they have today. Were still not back to the margins we saw historically, and
our game plan is to get the organization at least back to where they were and then, hopefully, on a
more upward swing.
Josh Vogel Sidoti & Co. Analyst
Okay. Thats helpful. Thank you. And just lastly, if you could remind me, I notice Employee
Services was down a little bit sequentially. Is that just seasonality?
Ware Grove CBIZ, Inc. CFO
Yes, hi, Josh. This is Ware. Theres a little bit of seasonality built into this business
related to some of the carrier payments that we get that are typically received and recorded in the
first half versus the second half. Thats essentially it. Most of the other business are pretty
steady state throughout the balance of the year.
Josh Vogel Sidoti & Co. Analyst
Okay, great. Thanks a lot.
Our next question comes from Jim Macdonald of First Analysis. Please go ahead.
Jim Macdonald First Analysis Corp. Analyst
Good morning, guys.
Steven Gerard CBIZ, Inc. Chairman & CEO
Hey Jim.
Jim Macdonald First Analysis Corp. Analyst
I just want to clarify. So your $0.52 guidance, does that count this quarter as $0.11 or
$0.09?
Ware Grove CBIZ, Inc. CFO
Well, the $0.52 guidance, just to be clear, does exclude the two items that we talked about
the debt retirement costs and the restructuring costs on the acquisition.
Jim Macdonald First Analysis Corp. Analyst
Okay. So it counts this quarter as an $0.11 quarter.
Ware Grove CBIZ, Inc. CFO
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Well, if you take the $0.02 out on the debt retirement costs, you could get from $0.09 to
$0.11, yes.
Jim Macdonald First Analysis Corp. Analyst
Just wanted to make sure. So that sort of implies not much profit next quarter. Is that
accurate?
Steven Gerard CBIZ, Inc. Chairman & CEO
No. Heres the dilemma. The dilemma is this. Weve been saying in a range of $0.52. Initially,
that range had some downside to it and perhaps some upside. Its looking like were in a range of
$0.52 with more optimism on the upside than the downside, but its too early to give anything more
specific than that. A lots going to depend on what we do in the next 30 to 40 days.
So what we basically did was reiterate prior guidance with a tilt on the upside rather than the
original tilt, which could have been on the downside.
Jim Macdonald First Analysis Corp. Analyst
And the legal recovery in the quarter, how much was that and was that subtracted out of G&A or
something?
Ware Grove CBIZ, Inc. CFO
Yes, Jim, that was about $1 million, and yes, it was subtracted out of G&A for the quarter
and, of course, for the nine months. So for the nine months, its more of a normal run rate. I
think thats the way to look at it.
Steven Gerard CBIZ, Inc. Chairman & COO
Yes, and I think thats an important point. When we announced the first quarter, we said,
Look, G&A is higher because of unusual legal expenses that we thought was more of a timing issue.
And I dont know how many people really believed that, but we were confident in it. And thats all
this has been. We spent some money. We got the money back. So the way to look at our expenses,
really, is much more on a year-to-date basis.
Jim Macdonald First Analysis Corp. Analyst
Okay, and those to be clear, I think we included those and left those in, the ongoing
numbers, and presumably well leave this benefit in for the $0.11, just thinking about it.
Ware Grove CBIZ, Inc. CFO
That is correct. The only exceptions are the two I mentioned.
Jim Macdonald First Analysis Corp. Analyst
So your same-store sales are still negative, and of course a big part of that is MMP. But when
can you see do you expect to go same-store negative next year?
Steven Gerard CBIZ, Inc. Chairman & CEO
We are just now in the beginnings of our budget process for next year. Its too early to call.
I am expecting that the markets that were in are going to be stable next year as opposed to us
digging out of the markets for the last 18 months. So we will
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give guidance at the next call when we give our year-end numbers. Well have our plans done by
then. But Im certainly hopeful that we will see growth in our businesses next year.
Jim Macdonald First Analysis Corp. Analyst
Just one more and then Ill come back in later. Financial Services was basically negative, Id
say, in terms of your commentary, but the number was stronger than I was looking for. Any reasons
for the relative strength in Financial Services this quarter?
Steven Gerard CBIZ, Inc. Chairman & CEO
Well, first of all, I dont mean my comments to be negative. The question that was asked was
are we seeing any significant pickup in the project-related work which affects the third and fourth
comment, and my comment was there seems to be more activity, but it hasnt turned yet into
business. I think the primary reason for the improvement in Financial Services on a revenue line
was the acquisition that we made in the beginning of the year of the Goldstein Lewin firm in
Florida, and that accounts for most of the revenue pickup on a year-to-date basis.
Jim Macdonald First Analysis Corp. Analyst
Although it went from minus 5.5% same-store last quarter to minus 0.4% this quarter, so I
know its still down, but
Steven Gerard CBIZ, Inc. Chairman & CEO
Jim, were clearly heading in the right direction, and were heading in the right direction
actually in all three of our businesses. Given the somewhat lumpiness that comes in third quarter
and fourth quarter Financial Services, I just dont have I think its too early to call victory.
I just think that each of our businesses are performing well given the environment theyre in, and
we are in fact heading in the right direction.
If you look at the MMP numbers sequentially quarter over quarter, the negative drag on the
procedures is getting better each quarter, and the actual negative procedure count on a same-store
basis in MMP, for example, is 1.5% or 1.2% percent.
So each business is heading correctly, and I think well have a better view of next year as we get
to the end of this year.
Jim Macdonald First Analysis Corp. Analyst
Okay. Ill jump back in. Thanks.
(OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS.) Your next question comes from Robert Kirkpatrick of Cardinal Capital
Partners.
Robert Kirkpatrick Cardinal Capital Partners Analyst
Good morning, gentlemen.
Steven Gerard CBIZ, Inc. Chairman & CEO
Good morning, Rob.
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Robert Kirkpatrick Cardinal Capital Partners Analyst
Could you please talk a little bit about the M&A market and whether theres a rush for the
gates to beat anything on a tax basis by the end of the year?
Steven Gerard CBIZ, Inc. Chairman & CEO
Our M&A pipeline is very strong. As I said before, well do the usual number of transactions
that we do. I dont believe theres a rush to the door because people are worried about capital
gains tax. From time to time its mentioned, but were not seeing any more than we normally see. We
just have a very full pipeline of deals we can do. Typically, when these issues come up and it
came up a couple years ago also theres always the thought that people will be rushing, but it
never actually happened, and it hasnt happened yet this year.
Robert Kirkpatrick Cardinal Capital Partners Analyst
Okay. And Steve, could you comment generally on what youre seeing in the economy. Given that
CBIZ pushes so much in terms of small and medium businesses, Id be curious as to your comments on
that.
Steven Gerard CBIZ, Inc. Chairman & CEO
Were seeing stability but a continued great deal of uncertainty as to the possible impact of
healthcare, the possible impact of tax changes, the possible impact of an energy bill, and
uncertainty as to whats going to happen next week in the elections. So I think our clients are
stable. I think theyre looking more positive theyre looking up instead of down, which is good
news for us and good news for the economy.
But again, I think its too early to say that theyre pulling the trigger. Youre not seeing it in
the employment numbers. Youre not seeing it in any kind of capital spending numbers or information
that we get with respect to what our clients are thinking of. So theyre stable. Theyre looking
more positive. Theyre waiting for some degree of clarity as to what next year is going to happen
to them from external things they cant control, such as taxes. So slightly better, but I
wouldnt call it in the good column yet.
Robert Kirkpatrick Cardinal Capital Partners Analyst
And each of the last couple of quarters, youve commented on how healthcare reform could
affect CBIZs business. Any further comments on that these days?
Steven Gerard CBIZ, Inc. Chairman & CEO
Nothing with respect to the MMP business. I think the one thing that has come up last week was
the decision by the insurance commissioners of the United States to recommend to Health & Human
Services a package which defined what was in what they called the medical loss ratio, the MLR. And
included in that was the exclusion of broker commissions from the calculation.
You may remember that the government has said certain medical loss ratio hurdles of the amount of
money that they have to pay out on claims, whether youre a large group or a small group. And the
exclusion of broker commissions in the calculation has raised a question as to what carriers are
going to do with broker commission.
The best read we have now is and I think I commented on this in the past is we expected the
rules to come out the way they appear to be coming out. We believe that the carriers will look hard
at protecting and encouraging and enticing their major brokers, of which we are with most of our
carriers, and will probably change the commission structure for brokers that are not as important
to them or not primary brokers. But all of that still has to be played out.
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So nothing new with respect to reimbursements at this point on the MMP side, but a few other issues
have now popped up on the group health side.
Robert Kirkpatrick Cardinal Capital Partners Analyst
Okay, and then a couple for Ware. Ware, bad debt expense in the quarter was about $1 million
again?
Ware Grove CBIZ, Inc. CFO
Yes, were accruing, in the quarter, about 75 basis points against revenue. Year-to-date, its
between 60 and 65 basis points, which is historically where were at on a collective basis for
CBIZ.
Robert Kirkpatrick Cardinal Capital Partners Analyst
Okay. And then the non-cash interest expense on the new debt should be, in dollar terms, about
equal to that of the old debt, a lower rate but a higher principal amount. Is that a fair
assessment?
Ware Grove CBIZ, Inc. CFO
Yeah. Without getting into all the math, it will be the difference between the 4.875% and the
7.5% rate. So we can do the math and come up with a pretty close approximation.
Robert Kirkpatrick Cardinal Capital Partners Analyst
Great. Thank you so much, gentlemen. Appreciate it and appreciate everybodys work and
results.
Steven Gerard CBIZ, Inc. Chairman & CEO
Thanks, Rob.
(OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS.) Our next question comes from Ted Hillenmeyer of Northstar Partners.
Ted Hillenmeyer Northstar Partners Analyst
Hi guys. Ware, can you give us what the share count you expect to have in Q4? Because I dont
think the benefit of some of those buybacks affected it for the entire quarter in Q3.
Ware Grove CBIZ, Inc. CFO
Youre right, Ted. There wasnt much impact in the third quarter and year-to-date. In the
fourth quarter, I think that the share count is going to be close to 50 million shares. And then
for the full year, thatll make the weighted average share count about 58.5 million shares for this
year.
Ted Hillenmeyer Northstar Partners Analyst
And it will remain at that 50 million, basically, for 2011 unless you take out the other
DeGroote shares?
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Ware Grove CBIZ, Inc. CFO
Yes, thats our projection right now. We expect approximately 50 million shares in 2011.
Ted Hillenmeyer Northstar Partners Analyst
And then I missed Steve, I think you mentioned MMPs did you say it was the same-store
rate that was down 1.5% to 2% and the rest
Steven Gerard CBIZ, Inc. Chairman & CEO
Yes, Ted, that was the procedure count for what we call the mature clients, which tend to be
the clients that last year over year.
So what were seeing is still a decline in procedures, but the declining rates appear to be less.
Weve also seen in the last couple of months a slight uptick in the higher modality procedures. But
again, were still running negatively, certainly this year over last year.
Ted Hillenmeyer Northstar Partners Analyst
So the difference between the 1.5% to 2% and the same-store sales rate down 8% is the pricing
of those procedures or also loss of customers?
Steven Gerard CBIZ, Inc. Chairman & CEO
Yes. Well, its a combination. The revenue is a combination of lower pricing and the net
between lost and new accounts, but thats right.
I reported in the last two calls that 2009 was the first year in MMPs history where the dollar
amount of new business did not exceed the dollar amount of lost business, and that was because we
lost most of the business due to the doctor groups disbanding or losing their contracts or other
things happening with them. And because of the uncertainty around the federal governments
healthcare, people werent making changes. So we are carrying through 2010 the negative delta
between the new business and lost business from last year.
Ted Hillenmeyer Northstar Partners Analyst
And when you go to Q4 in 2011, do you know what your expectation is just for number of
customers year over year?
Steven Gerard CBIZ, Inc. Chairman & CEO
Im sorry 2010 or 11?
Ted Hillenmeyer Northstar Partners Analyst
Q4 2010 into 2011. Is there a point where you lap the loss of these customers?
Steven Gerard CBIZ, Inc. Chairman & CEO
Sure. And as Ware pointed out earlier, this year the number of new customers the dollar
revenue from new customers exceeds the dollar revenue from lost customers. So we do expect as we go
into next year to lap last years problem.
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Ted Hillenmeyer Northstar Partners Analyst
Okay. And then, I think lastly, can you just give me an update on expected payments for earn
outs?
Ware Grove CBIZ, Inc. CFO
Yes, Ted, earn outs this year are running roughly $20 million, and were essentially through
those. For next year, weve scheduled and this is assuming full payment on all earn outs
approximately $28 million. In 2012, its approximately $22 million. Then it drops off after that in
2013 to approximately $4 million.
Ted Hillenmeyer Northstar Partners Analyst
Okay, great. Thanks.
(OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS.) We have a follow-up question from Jim Macdonald of First Analysis.
Jim Macdonald First Analysis Corp. Analyst
Yes, just a follow-up on the MMP questions. What are you looking at for the pricing
environment for procedures for next year? Any other changes on the downside?
Steven Gerard CBIZ, Inc. Chairman & CEO
This is an industry that will continue to have competitive pricing pressure. Again, were too
soon in our budget process to have the view on next year, so thats the internal view. There has
been no serious announcements by anybody on reimbursement rates for next year, and I think thats
probably the direction of your question. We havent seen anything official from the committee that
advises Medicare/Medicaid, and they havent come out with anything. And we dont have any feedback
from carriers at this point that there are dramatic changes.
That information tends to roll out when it comes, that information tends to roll out between now
and year-end, and in some years it actually comes out after year-end on a retroactive basis. And
again, part of this is going to depend on what Congress is prepared to do with recommendations as
theyre handed out. So theres been no news and no change on that.
Jim Macdonald First Analysis Corp. Analyst
And in terms of the pricing issue, how much would you say is reduced reimbursement rates from
the government versus competition versus a mix to lower cost procedures?
Steven Gerard CBIZ, Inc. Chairman & CEO
I think I would be guessing off the top I think we have all that information. If its all
right with you, why dont we do a little bit better look at it and provide that to you? Ive got
rough numbers, but I dont want to mislead you in it.
Jim Macdonald First Analysis Corp. Analyst
Okay. Just a couple other cleanup items. The receivables looked a bit high this quarter. Any
thoughts there?
Ware Grove CBIZ, Inc. CFO
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Yes, were watching them carefully as we always do. Our DSOs have slipped backwards a little
bit this year. Were looking at our collection activities. Were looking at our bad debt accruals,
as we talked about earlier. We think were fine, but were continuing to manage it carefully. Steve
and I review it, all the key outstanding balances with each practice group.
The important thing is our cash flow continues to be good, and while you could say that theres
some slippage on the receipt side because of the DSO increase, were managing the cost side very
carefully too. So were kind of where we thought we would be in terms of net operating cash flow at
this point this year.
Jim Macdonald First Analysis Corp. Analyst
And could you give me an update or tell us when we might get an update on the MHM lawsuit?
Steven Gerard CBIZ, Inc. Chairman & CEO
There has been no significant change from the information we reported in the Q that came out
this summer. Theres the usual legal wrangling and motions filed and things going in and out, but
no material change in the status of that suit.
Jim Macdonald First Analysis Corp. Analyst
And do you expect anything to happen in the near term?
Steven Gerard CBIZ, Inc. Chairman & CEO
Im hopeful that we will prevail as we move forward, but I have learned the hard way that
these things take much, much longer than they should, so I dont have a view as to whether we will
have any as to when well have more clarity. These things are just agonizingly slow.
Jim Macdonald First Analysis Corp. Analyst
Okay, thanks a lot.
(OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS.) We have no further questions in queue. Would you like to make any
closing remarks.
Steven Gerard CBIZ, Inc. Chairman & CEO
Yes, thank you. Id like to thank everyone who called in. Id specifically and particularly
like to thank all of our associates who listen in to these calls. These have been difficult
quarters. The results we posted today are strong, and theyre strong because of the hard work and
the dedication and the commitment that all of you have.
So I really want to, again, thank you for your contributions to these results. And for everyone
else, we look forward to speaking to you when we release full-year numbers after the end of the
year.
Thank you all very much.
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes todays conference. Thank you for
participating. You may now disconnect.
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